2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass [Summit!]

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2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass [Summit!]

Post by Jody » Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:21 am

ImageWould anyone be interested in joining my group at the 2013 Mountaineering Camp from June 28-July 5, 2013 in Rogers Pass, Selkirk Mountains, Glacier National Park (i.e., the week before the 2013 Canadian National Scout Jamboree at Sylvan Lake, Alberta)?

The Alpine Club of Canada's Asulkan Cabin (6,890 ft./2,100 m.) can accommodate 12 people (i.e., either: 4 leaders & 8 scouts -or- 6 leaders & 6 scouts).

http://www.alpineclubofcanada.ca/facility/asulkan.html
Location: http://goo.gl/maps/mcQm0

We will book the whole cabin (UPDATE: The Asulkan Cabin has now been booked for our exclusive use!) and do a multi-day (7 days/6 nights) basic mountaineering camp on the slopes behind it (i.e., training, conditioning and acclimatizing in stages higher up the mountain each day) culminating with an ascent of Youngs Peak (9,341 ft./2,847 m.).

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On the first day we will meet and stay at the ACC's Wheeler Cabin (4,100 ft./1,250 m.) located beside the Illeciliwaet (pronounced illy-sil-la-wet) camp ground parking lot (Glacier National Park) and rest and get to know the team after our journeys to Rogers Pass before heading out the next morning for the high camp.

The trail head starts from the Wheeler Cabin. It's a spectacular 7 km. hike in to the Asulkan Cabin with a 2,790 ft./850 m. elevation gain (the majority of which is done in the last kilometre or so on the narrow spine of a glacial moraine that winds up the slope to the hut). We will have all day to hike in. The trail rises gently along the floor of the Illeciliwaet and Asulkan Valleys surrounded by towering peaks, past avalanche paths and waterfalls before starting the ascent through a subalpine forest, culminating with the hike up the moraine to the Asulkan Cabin.

The cabin is extremely comfortable and well equipped: you will not need to bring your sleeping pads, mess kits, cook ware, stoves or tents on this trip since these things are all stocked at the cabin.

The single biggest problem for this event, however, will be getting our food for the week up to the cabin. PROBLEM SOLVED: WE'VE GOT AIR SUPPORT!

I estimate that our food for the week will weigh approximately 250-300 lbs. The Scouts and Venturers (11 to 16 year olds) attending this camp will easily be able to carry 20-25 lbs. of personal gear up to the high camp. They will not, however, be able to carry the additional 20 lbs. or more of food they will each need for the week. There are only two options to solve this problem: (a) have a helicopter deliver about 6 duffel bags of supplies; or (b) hire a number of porters (at least six strong men for a full day) to carry our supplies up the mountain on their backs.

We have had a very generous offer from Alpine Helicopter Inc. based in Golden, B.C., to deliver our supplies to the cabin for a very affordable rate to help us (Scouts Canada) with this project but landing a helicopter (no matter how briefly) requires special permission from Parks Canada. Discussions with Parks Canada so far have been outstanding and they are very excited to see this project happen (they have some very cool ideas that will make our experience while visiting Rogers Pass even more memorable). We just have to be patient now and wait for Parks Canada's decision about using a helicopter to deliver the week's food. I am confident that this matter will be resolved and that this camp will be the highlight of your 2013 Scouting activities.

UPDATE (April 29, 2013):

As of this afternoon, Parks Canada has agreed to issue us a Special Events Permit AND a Helicopter Landing Permit for this event!

We owe Parks Canada a huge "Thank You!" for making such special accommodation for us so that this camp can proceed!


Note: We may do this camp annually from now on: topic754.html

Surprisingly, cell phone and 3G data service is available at the cabin (it's definitely fun to be able to say "Hi" to your families from such a lofty perch up in British Columbia's Selkirk Mountains and upload photos to Twitter or Facebook - Skype could also be available). Heat, light and cooking is propane. We will use a solar panel to recharge our electrical gadgets.

Ice axes, crampons, seat harnesses and helmets will be required by all attendees (most of this gear can be rented from MEC rather inexpensively).

Draft schedule:

Day 1: Friday, June 28 - travel to Rogers Pass - stay at Wheeler Cabin;
Day 2: Saturday, June 29 - hike to high camp - begin stay at Asulkan Cabin;
Day 3: Sunday, June 30 - introduction to snow travel, ice axe usage and self-arrest;
Day 4: Monday, July 1 - introduction to crampons and roped travel;
Day 5: Tuesday, July 2 - introduction to snow anchors, snow rappelling and belaying and crevasse rescue;
Day 6: Wednesday, July 3 - climb Youngs Peak (9,341 ft./2,847 m.) - "alpine start" today = early a.m. departure - headlamps required;
Day 7: Thursday, July 4 - fun day: practice all skills - let's explore Asulkan Pass; and
Day 8: Friday, July 5 - hike down to valley & travel to the Pre-CJ'13 Get-together Camp near Yoho National Park (see below).

I was at this site on August 1, 2012, and it is ideal for the purpose under consideration:

http://5thwestvanscouts.com/2012/08/12/ ... -bugaboos/

Here's a shaky cam video of the proposed site:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php ... 5136058243

The Jamboree is being held not far from Rogers Pass (480 kms., 6 hour drive). Here's the driving route to Sylvan Lake: http://tinyurl.com/b26nbx8

UPDATE: There will be a pre-CJ'13 get-together camp on Friday night (August 5) near Golden, B.C. at the western entrance to Yoho National Park as guests of the 1st Golden Scouts at Camp Wenman. CJ'13 attendees cannot check into the Jamboree until Saturday, August 6, so, if you need a place to crash for the night, why not join us there? Here's the details: topic776.html


Here's the cabin nearly 7,000 ft. up at the south end of Rogers Pass:
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A view of its backyard - a mountaineer's playground (Youngs Peak is at the center top of the photo):
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All the great peaks of Rogers Pass are viewable from the cabin's front porch:
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This will be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to become part of a mountaineering team that will attempt to raise the Scouts Canada flag on a peak over 9,300 feet up in the Selkirk mountains of British Columbia!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkirk_Mountains

In order to book the whole cabin for ourselves we would have to commit to this trip at the earliest possible date (6 months early may not be good enough to have exclusive use of the cabin). UPDATE: November 5, 2012; 1:00 pm PDT The Asulkan Cabin has now been booked for our exclusive use!

Any interest?

=========================== UPDATE ===========================

UPDATE: May 8, 2013:

This trip will be booked on a First-Come-First-Served basis.

THIS EVENT IS NOW FULLY BOOKED

Scout Leaders (FULL):

1. Jody Lotzkar, 5th West Vancouver Mountaineer Scouts, West Vancouver, B.C.
2. Jason Gadd, 1st Golden Scouts, Golden, B.C.
3. Keiller Gowans, 21st Capilano Scouts, North Vancouver, B.C.
4. Alistair Campbell, 21st Capilano Scouts

Scouts (FULL):

1. Simon, 5th West Vancouver Mountaineer Scouts
2. Keir, 5th West Vancouver Mountaineer Scouts
3. Ben, 1st Golden Scouts
4. Meredith, 1st Riverlake Venturers, Fall River, Nova Scotia
5. Zachary, 21st Capilano Venturers
6. Jessica, 21st Capilano Venturers
7. Svetlana, 21st Capilano Scouts
8. Keiran, 21st Capilano Scouts
9. Sarah, 21st Capilano Scouts
10. Emerald, 21st Capilano Scouts

THIS EVENT IS NOW FULLY BOOKED

This event is open to any member of Scouts Canada who has a taste for real adventure!

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Re: Mountaineering Camp - June 28-July 5, 2013

Post by Rick Gruchy » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:11 am

I hope you get some takers. This would be an awesome trip. Great idea Jody.

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Re: Mountaineering Camp - June 28-July 5, 2013

Post by Jody » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:42 am

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Re: Mountaineering Camp: June 28-July 5, 2013

Post by Jody » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:46 am

Last chance...

This event is almost fully booked!
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Re: Mountaineering Camp: June 28-July 5, 2013

Post by Jody » Sun Nov 04, 2012 2:51 pm

THIS EVENT IS NOW FULLY BOOKED!

CLIMB ON!
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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Scouter Richie » Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:05 pm

Thank's for posting all the details of your plan. I'd love to go on an adventure like this in the future. Especially with someone who knows what needs to be done. I have not meet too many mountaineers in Saskatchewan. ;)
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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:20 am

Richie:

I expect that we will be doing this sort of program every year from now on.

See this discussion about making this an annual event:

topic754.html
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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:41 pm

Here's a photo showing the location of the 2013 Mountaineering Camp that I took from Abbott Ridge looking across the valley towards Youngs Peak (cropped to enlarge area):

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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:45 pm

I'm very pleased to report that Parks Canada yesterday agreed to issue a Special Events Permit AND a Helicopter Landing Permit for the 2013 Mountaineering Camp!

From what I understand, this is a first of its kind for Parks Canada.

Apparently, they've never had an event like this in their mountain parks and, generally, will not issue a Helicopter Landing Permit for what is essentially a private event. The decision made yesterday is HUGE and bodes well for future similar activities so long as we continue to earn their trust. The process that I initiated to reach this decision took six months. If all goes well, I hope that Parks Canada will continue to welcome us into their mountain parks in subsequent years.

I would like to say "Thank You!" to Parks Canada for making such special accommodation for us so that this camp can proceed!

I now have only two months left to plan the final details of the camp. I better get back to work!

Alpine Helicopter over the Canadian Rockies:
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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Thu May 02, 2013 6:00 pm

The 7 km. hiking path from the ACC's Wheeler Cabin to the ACC's Asulkan Cabin is marked in red.

The flight path our airlift of food for the week will take to get from Golden (east of Rogers Pass) to the Asulkan Cabin (7,000' up at the south end of Rogers Pass) is marked in yellow.

If all goes according to plan, the chopper will be rigged with a GoPro video camera to record the flight over the Selkirk Range to our high camp.

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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Sun May 12, 2013 7:50 pm

Less than seven weeks to go!

This might look cool on the back of a t-shirt:

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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by LNTCamper » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:24 pm

It's happening folks. Scouter Jody is posting photos and comments from the cabin, almost as it happens. Check out 5th Mountaineering Scouts on Facebook to see the running commentary. It's a must see.
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Re: 2013 Mountaineering Camp: Rogers Pass

Post by Jody » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:02 pm

Gee, thanks Tim! We had a total blast!

Everything went off like clockwork and the kids (and other leaders involved) had a heck of an adventure.

We did three days of training and went for the summit on the fourth day.

In the end, seven youth successfully bagged their first major peak (4 gals/3 guys: 5 of which were between 11-14).

Here's a few photos of our climb of Youngs Peak (4 a.m. alpine start on Wednesday, July 3, 2013):

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