Delete the Provincial badge

Scouter Harry

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Post Tue Aug 02, 2011 6:02 pm

Re: Delete the Provincial badge

jkeess wrote:I think a simple strip that simple said "Quebec" or "NB" would do the trick. Hopefully, with the uniforms, more area will move towards silk-screen badges that are less prominent.


One of our scouts goes and visits family in Colombia every Christmas. He brought back a small strip patch that just says "Bogota", which is all the kids wear for local identification.
Harry Shnider, MCIP
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Angus Bickerton

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Post Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:44 am

Re: Delete the Provincial badge

Scouter Harry wrote:
jkeess wrote:I think a simple strip that simple said "Quebec" or "NB" would do the trick. Hopefully, with the uniforms, more area will move towards silk-screen badges that are less prominent.


One of our scouts goes and visits family in Colombia every Christmas. He brought back a small strip patch that just says "Bogota", which is all the kids wear for local identification.


Regardless of one's , um, feelings on the new uniforms, we must get away from the uniform clutter that has developed over the years. Having badges stretching down each arm to the cuff, epaulettes, service club badges (beside RiL award, if you have it) has made us look more like a campfire blanket than a person in uniform. The red shirts are going to force some re-design of Council, Area and Group crests, as a lot of them will clash horribly with the red, and will look just awful.

Doing away entirely with some badges (i.e. the rescue and first aid badges (few took them off when their credentials expired), the provincial badge for Ontario and BC, the service club badge) would clear up the uniform a lot. After all, is a victim going to check your sleeve to see if you have your first aid or CPR badge on there before you start work on them? We don't need to adorn ourselves with fripperies. The important things to identify is where a youth member is from (Council(with provincial logo inside)/Area/Group), and their achievements. In fact, the group/section insignia could be placed on the apex of the necker, which a lot of groups already do. We might even want to do away with the year bars, but I must admit that I kind of like them.

For adults, the only achievements we need to be wearing are the Wood Badge identifiers, the RiL award, any Scouting honours (nice, little badges that blend in), and the Adult Achievement Award (for CSA and QVA recipients).
Angus Bickerton
"Malak", 6th Brockville Colony
"Kaa", 6th Brockville Pack
1st Gilwell 2011 (Colony)

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ayates

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Post Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:39 am

Re: Delete the Provincial badge

Brockville Malak wrote:Doing away entirely with some badges (i.e. the rescue and first aid badges <snip> For adults, the only achievements we need to be wearing are the Wood Badge identifiers, the RiL award, any Scouting honours (nice, little badges that blend in), and the Adult Achievement Award (for CSA and QVA recipients).

I actually like the rescue/first aid/etc badges on the uniform. I know I felt very proud at the time being able to sew on (ok, my wife did the sewing :)) the Boat Rescue badge. Leaders give up a lot of time and put a lot of effort into earning those qualifications and it is good for them to be able to get some recognition. It also advertises those types of qualifications to other leaders so they can think of working for them. And since I can never avoid controversy, IMHO those awards are more meaningful since there is hard criteria for them, rather than the Scouting awards which, while highly deserved by some leaders, are very subjectively awarded in many cases.

I just received the June minutes from our area, and there was this little tidbit included:

New Council [Voyageur] crests are in the works for the new shirts. These will include Provincial/Territory emblems. (Trillium, Fleur des Lis, and Polar bear for Nunavut)


Allan.
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